
J.G Ballard once noted that the Marquis De Sade remains the spectre at the feast of European letters and thought. On the rare occasions when anyone decides to let him in from the cold, he leaves bloody footprints on the welcome mat.
A fiercely contrarian spirit, the Marquis has been variously called, by admirers and detractors alike: revolutionary, radical, reactionary, an anarchist, a socialist. Depending on who you read he is either a much maligned libertarian or he paved the theoretical way for the homicidal tyrants of the 20th century. No one can quite decide where the Marquis lies on the political spectrum. The debate is probably fiercest regarding his views on gender and pornography, understandably so as the body in De Sade is always the locus of power and freedom, but even here views diverge. Virulent misogynist whose fiction continually degrade and devalue women, or a radical feminist who, in one of his darkest fictions, Juliette, shows the possibility of complete female emancipation?
Illumination cannot be found in his life either. Strangely enough for a man who is know for transgression and excess, his behaviour as a free citizen in Republican Paris shows an unexpected moderation. De Sade didn’t avail himself of the unique opportunities present during the Terror, instead he kept a cool head while others were losing theirs.
After his release from prison in 1790 he lived in Paris with his mistress Marie Constant Quesnet and her six year old son. His long suffering wife Renee-Pelagie, after standing by him during the long years of imprisonment had obtained a divorce by this time. De Sade was elected to the National Convention and was appointed to the local Section Des Piques, one of the forty eight administrative divisions in the new Republic. It was in this position that he could have condemned his loathed in-laws, especially his mother-in-law, La Presidente who was responsible for the lettres de cachet that had caused him to be under lock and key for over a decade, to death. But he refrained; the Marquis De Sade had always been a principled opponent of the death penalty. This restraint and his criticism of Robespierre led to the Marquis being detained again in 1793, where he narrowly escaped execution due to a clerical error.
De Sade wrote a number of stirring pamphlets in defence of the Revolution, notably the famous Yet another effort, Frenchman, if you would become Republicans, nestled in his libertine classic La philosophie dans le boudoir (Philosophy in the Bedroom). In this text De Sade gives an outline of his version of Utopia, a minimal state that interferes as little as possible with the rights of the individual. I shall by reviewing this work in greater depth and further detail in the next post on the Marquis.
I look forward to the next post, its very interesting
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Thank you, I have written a few posts about De Sade. I can send you the links if you haven’t caught them yet. Appreciate the support and comments are always nice.
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Thanks, I’d appreciate that, I have looked into him once or twice before, but never really got to the nitty gritty.
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Imaginary Portrait of D.A.F Sade-Man Ray 1936In 1789 the Marquis De Sade was one of eight prisoners held in the state prison of Bastille. For a …
Citizen Sade
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https://cakeordeathsite.wordpress.com/2016/11/22/citizen-sade/
No problem hope you enjoy.
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Au Chateau La Coste-Toyen 1946In the early 1930’s Jindrich Styrsky, the co-founder of the Czech Surrealist group made a pilgrimage to Provence, to …
At the Chateau La Coste
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Along with a very sweet tooth I share with the Marquis De Sade a quasi-mystical obsession with numbers. Certain numbers that have cropped up recently…
The Moment
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https://cakeordeathsite.wordpress.com/2016/07/15/the-moment/
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Those French are way more evolved in philosophy than the Brits, (or maybe its deconstructed) we are so reserved and frankly, “Bloody Boring” by comparison! Thanks for the links 🙂
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I have always preferred the Continental school over the Anglo-American philosophy. I love Blake and Lewis Carroll though. The French are very French and when it comes to libertines well they have it nailed. Funnily enough in most French novels there is usually a decadent sadistic English lord.
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Glad you enjoyed the links. De Sade gets name checked quite frequently here along with the surrealists etc.
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In the Essay on Novels, De Sade defends his writing this way: “It is not my wish to make vice attractive. … I harbor no dangerous plan to make women love men who deceive them, but on the contrary, to ensure that they loathe them.” I had a completely different opinion of him prior to this (thank you for enlightening me).
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He had many good points along with the long list of faults, that he was well aware of. Marie-Constant stayed with him the rest of his life and tried hard to provide for her and her son, times were tough. His opposition to the death penalty never wavered and he didn’t settle scores. He had good reason to hate La Presidente, but he kept to his principles even though it meant he came under scrutiny. However he wasn’t an angel and perhaps I am too fond of the old rogue.
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I have just begun my education regarding the Marquis so I don’t feel qualified to offer an opinion. But what I have learned is a surprise to me. How much of his bad reputation was a result of the times in which he lived. Would he be viewed more kindly today?
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Every regime locked him up. He was difficult and a contrarian and I don’t any time or system can tolerate his views. What system could accommodate total freedom?
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Did he really believe that or was it just being outrageous?
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He was imprisoned for most of his life. He was self aware, he realised that his uncontrollable nature was the reason. Could he help his nature? Could nature be wrong or was it civilisation. I think he was sincere. Like Blake he believed that if a desire could be suppressed it was because it was a weak desire. Strong desires can never be denied, not in the world Sadean universe.
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Hmm, not sure how long a Sadean system would last… self destructing
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And lonely… sovereign individuals in a desert waiting for destruction by other sovereign individuals
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Aha, yes indeed
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But more about that in the next post (or maybe the one after that)
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And this was an excellent post, I forgot to say. Very interesting stuff. He is complicated man.
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His life was ridiculously eventful, and very entertaining.
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So I am looking forward to the next installment!
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Well it will be about Philosophy in the Bedroom, that’s not short of action.
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Oh I’m sure!
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Should be
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I need to heed Ballard’s warning regarding the welcome mat. Is he worthy of a re-evaluation?
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That is a great quote. I like Ballard.
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I think De Sade would have approved of that quote. He liked to be difficult.
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I have to figure out how to tie all this into my writing post…
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Don’t worry about that if it doesn’t flow.
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I’ll do my best. And if it doesn’t work, I have an idea for one more if not two. I can link to either or.
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That’s grand
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Toujours!
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Thank you Christopher
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He is still a ‘post-humous man’ as Nietzsche would say…
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True, though he does have a streak of jet black humour in writing, but definitely posthumous
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Mr. Cake, very interesting write-up. I quite like the following, “a minimal state that interferes as little as possible with the rights of the individual”. Looking forward to the next post on the Marquis. ~ Miss Cranes
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Thank you Miss Cranes, glad you enjoyed the latest instalment on the Divine Marquis. He is an interesting political thinker even if some of his arguments seem to be a case of special pleading. But freedom is a tricky subject. He is rarely dull anyway.
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You’re most welcome Mr. Cake. I think it’s safe to say, never dull. Truly an exceptional thinker.
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I think he fits into Cakeland. Hmm I am sure he is delighted by that accolade.
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Yes, I sure he would be, here’s to Cakeland!
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Cakeland… land of frosting and cats, where nothing is as it seems.
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Another wonderful Cake-ism. Nothing is ever as it seems, especially with cats.
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Definitely not with cats.
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Very interesting. I’m surprised he had such scruples. Though, I suppose wanting every personal freedom doesn’t mean you are completely corrupt. I always love to read the comments on your site. They are very entertaining.
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He had some scruples. His stand against the death penalty was rather unique at the time. He saw the logical absurdity of saying murder was wrong and then the state would…murder you. Freedom is a thorny subject, if I want to play music loud late night at night I am depriving my neighbour a good nights sleep, yet I am repressing myself for the sake of my neighbour. Somebody is always unfree.
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True. Our freedoms infringe on someone else’s. I imagine a total breakdown in society if nobody cared about that.
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De Sade wouldn’t have necessarily been a huge fan of society. He believed it was tyranny imposed upon our natural desires. As an atheist he believed that all morals were based on religion, get rid of religion get rid of morals. We have to follow our natures, nothing natural could be wrong and as all desires are natural by virtue of them according them anything goes. They are holes in his reasoning, yet at least he followed his conclusions to the limit.
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And of course now they are trying to find the moral center to the brain. Or have found certain areas that seem to have that function. Interesting. I don’t see how people practicing such freedom could live with other people. Someone’s going to be repressed.
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Exactly, De Sade came up with the idea of sovereign individuals, but more about that later
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😊
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I watched the film loosely based on his life. He was damned by people who wanted to dampen independent thought.
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Which was pretty much everybody… he was imprisoned under three different regimes, monarchical, republican and imperial. He still poses difficult and challenging questions. Thanks Daisy
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I know. The kind of man whose thoughts I want to read 😀
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Well I am glad to share my thoughts on this troubling but fascinating character. thanks for the comments Daisy
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Oh so many devils on his shoulder. 🙂 And yes, he pushed literary and sexual boundaries, and from the accounts I’ve heard, while *he* enjoyed freedom in his libertine ways, it seems not everyone he pushed himself on was happily and freely consenting. No wonder he was always in jail, between the books and his transgressions.
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The actual amount of time he spent in prison for his real life transgressions were minimal. There was the Keller case that led to the lettre de cachet and the Marseille Spanish Fly case where he was sentenced to death in absentia along with his valet Latour for sodomy, but most of his time in prison or mental asylums were unrelated to actual crimes. He was banged up by every regime, monarchical, revolutionary and imperial, no regime could tolerant his extremes.
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